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Fourteen-year-old Ponyboy Curtis is the youngest of three orphaned brothers who live on the north side of town, the "wrong side" of the tracks. Sensitive Ponyboy used to have a good relationship with his oldest brother Darrel, but since Darrel became the household caregiver, he is always on Ponyboy's case. Caught in the middle is third brother Sodapop, who dropped out of school to work full time. They all belong to The Greasers, a gang of boys from the north side also from working class families, often broken.

Ponyboy's main concern is that any problem they may encounter, especially in their Greaser activities, will lead to the authorities splitting up their family.

He also believes Darrel would have outgrown them and become something in his life if it wasn't for his loyalty to the gang, and the need to take care of the family. The rest of the world sees the Greasers as all the same, the face being Dallas Winston, the most volatile one who has just been released from prison, despite each boy having his own specific view of life. Similarly, the world sees the Socs, the Greasers' primary rivals, as all the same, rich spoiled entitled boys with a sense of superiority from the south side of town, despite again each boy being his own person.

A connection between the two gangs happens in the form of Ponyboy and Cherry Valance, which doesn't sit well with Cherry's Soc boyfriend, Bob Sheldon. As a result, an incident occurs involving the Socs, Ponyboy and fellow Greaser, sixteen-year-old Johnny Cade, an equally sensitive boy who wants a better life for himself, but seems stuck in a downward spiral with parents who don't give him the time of day. Beyond Ponyboy and Johnny's lives being threatened by that incident, the Greasers and the Socs agree to a rumble to settle things once and for all.

Teen, 13 years old Written by cooldude November 26, Movies but there is lot's of violence and language so this is not for young kids. Little sexual content, some violence, good amount of smoking, little language This title contains: Positive Messages.

Teen, 15 years old Written by ketchupchips0 November 1, During my years in highschool, we have read many books by S. The book potrayed many important situations, that represent today's society. Wheither that be violence, substance abuse, neglect, bullying, getting into trouble with the law and police brutality. I believe this book teaches kids in a heartfelt way that many people expirence the same things in today's day and age.

It took place back in the 's but even in we are exposed to the same events. Teen, 14 years old Written by moraham May 20, Teen, 14 years old Written by KitKat May 11, I would recommend this to people who like emotional movies and drama. Teen, 17 years old Written by ret56u8io May 3, Great Cast, Good Story There is no doubt - I do not at all say this hatefully - that the book is better.

It has more detail, character development, and emotion by far, especially since it is told in the first person point of view by protagonist Ponyboy. That aside, one can be free to judge the film by its own standards without comparing it constantly to the book, to which it undoubtedly cannot compare.

This can be hard to do, but when you treat them as more separate versions, you can see the significant good points that the movie - despite leaving out a few key details - still maintains. It's likely that the main point of which is the casting.

Actors were superb, and definitely the right people for the job, as many moviegoers heartily agree. When it came to portrayal of the original characters, the movie did not at all fall short. Another thing to address is the duration of the film. I'm curious as to why the crew thought the movie would be too long at an hour and 50 minutes. I firmly believe that you should only ever watch the director's cut of the film, with the famous 22 extra minutes of footage, which really does make it more like the complete story, what with the crucial scenes of Ponyboy getting jumped at the start and the scenes of the Curtis brothers resolving their conflict at the end both being cut from the main film.

People claim that the film moves incredibly quickly, and the plot points are very rushed. This can be true in some instances, but I believe that it's a far cry from declaring that the entire movie is like a confusing roller coaster ride. It is possible to follow along, though you may need the knowledge the book provides to piece the events together in some instances. It is also true that this film is not for the faint of heart, as the scenes of Bob and his group of Socs drowning Pony in the fountain, the church fire rescue, Johnny in the hospital, Darry hitting Pony, and a few others as well, are genuinely disturbing.

The solution? Don't watch this movie unless you're 13 or older. I first watched it when I was 13 in grade 7, and I was able to handle it although of course, everyone is different to some degree.

Also, keep in mind that it is supposed to be a sad, scary, and disheartening story at some points, because it allows people to be more appreciative of the obstacles the characters overcome. This is not a light read, and is definitely not a breezy watch. There is also swearing, which can be expected of a s gangster movie although I am very hesitant to group The Outsiders in with any ordinary gangster movie. It is interesting, though, that there is almost none in the book, save for important moments like Johnny's death.

The film is from , and should as I know many other reviewers have said be judged based on the technology, stunts, and special effects available at that time. It is certainly not perfect, but there is nothing really outstanding to hate on regarding the picture quality and things like that. I think a newer version would be cool if done right, but I have doubts about whether or not a new film crew could pull it off; it also has a deep nostalgic tie with Outsiders fans which likely shouldn't be usurped by something new, especially if it doesn't work out.

All in all, yes, it is definitely true that the novel by Susan Eloise Hinton is wonderfully, compassionately, and exceptionally written, and is better than the movie version. However, that doesn't mean that the film is a failure, or is horrible. It is definitely a worthwhile watch, but I will advise viewers to read the novel first. Teen, 14 years old Written by Shadow April 22, Why it should be rated R Make sure your kid does not watch this there is swearing and violence I guarantee it is there and there is blood as well and it is real life so whatever you do do not show them this until they are 18 or older because there is to much stuff that is so bad that your kids might go crazy.

Teen, 15 years old Written by horridzayn April 14, Hinton said so herself and you can kinda tell with all their weird [and adorable] slang. We also know that it's set in Tulsa, Oklahoma and how would we know this, again? It's not stated in the books at all But what month? Well, we know it's in the fall by the use of these quotes:. The pool was empty now in the fall, but the fountain was going merrily.

Tall elm trees made the park shadowy and dark, and it would have been a good hangout, but we preferred our vacant lot, and the Shepard outfit liked the alleys down by the tracks, so the park was left to lovers and little kids.

So it's a fall month, and a school month. Not to early in the fall, since the kiddy-pool is already shut down for the winter. A few more hints are in Sodapop and Ponyboy's dialogue. In the scene where Dally argues with a Nurse in the Hospital about the whereabouts of his Hospital gown, the nurse is played by author, S. Later on, it turned out Coppola sent him home early because he already knew he was going to cast him as Dallas.

During filming, Tom Cruise had gotten his script for Risky Business In the DVD commentary, Diane Lane says very quietly to the other actors that he had asked her during filming to play Lana in Risky Business , and her father told him there was no way in hell she was going to be a hooker in his movie.

While Ponyboy and Johnny are best friends in the novel and film, C. Thomas Howell recalls often not getting along with co-star Ralph Macchio, saying he was very serious and professional. He remembers a specific argument dealing with him wanting to beat his high score on Pac-Man and Macchio demanding they rehearsed their lines.

Their differences could be attributed to the fact that Howell was only fifteen years old and Macchio was twenty at the time. In the rumble scene, the first punch is given to Ponyboy. Thomas Howell Ponyboy recalls that the hit was real, and it knocked him out cold on-set. During filming, Rob Lowe asked S. Hinton what happens to Sodapop Curtis. Hinton responded that Sodapop was drafted to Vietnam and died there. Hinton wrote the original story when she was fifteen years old, and finished it when she was sixteen.

In the film, Dallas harasses Cherry and the two have an altercation. The scene was shot early in filming, and Matt Dillon and Diane Lane recalled years later that it got them off on the wrong foot and created real tension between them off set, which is why their irritability with each other in the scene seems very real. When the cast reunited in for the 20th Anniversary, the men laughed when Lane told them about this, all agreeing that they remembered the ongoing feud between her and Dillon.

Lane blames her adolescent insecurities for being so sensitive to Dillon's teasing. She also admitted that she remembers fondly how protective he and the other boys were of her. Dillon and Lane ended up shooting two other films together, both of which they are each other's love interest, and became good friends. Emilio Estevez and Tom Cruise were childhood friends before the film and showed up to the audition together.

Both received starring roles. The film is based on a book that is very popular among junior high and high school students. The class voted Coppola as the director they would most like to see direct a film of the book. The school sent a letter and a copy of the book to Coppola. Coppola read the book and the letter and was so moved, he made this movie and Rumble Fish Coppola threw out Kathleen Rowell's script, wrote his own, and filmed the new screenplay.

However, due to a decision by the Writers Guild, Coppola was unable to secure a credit for himself. Out of the main cast, all the actors were in their late teens, except for Patrick Swayze, who was twenty-nine years old, and Ralph Macchio and Leif Garrett, who were both twenty when the film was made in Diane Lane said that during the scene with Cherry and Ponyboy talking before the rumble, C.

Thomas Howell was making funny faces at her when the camera was only showing her face, which made it hard for her to concentrate and not laugh. During the commentary almost twenty years later, she reminded him of that and he responded referring to Francis Ford Coppola , "Francis told me to do it. Hinton was a part of every aspect of filming. She stated in several interviews how much she loved the boys that were cast to make up her gang of greasers.

Since almost all of them were teenagers and away from home with no adult supervision, she claims that she became a mother figure for them on and off-set, and fondly remembers them calling her "Mom".

During the restored dinner scene where Sodapop runs away, Sodapop is seen with a piece of paper at the table. According to the novel, it is a "Dear John" letter from his girlfriend Sandy, whom he claimed he wished to marry.

Sandy had cheated on Soda and gotten pregnant, so she moved to Florida to live with her grandmother. According to writer S. Hinton, the boys caused quite a bit of trouble in the hotel in which they were staying during the three months of filming. One particular incident she recalled in an interview was the night they filmed the fountain scene, where Bob Leif Garrett is attempting to drown Ponyboy C.

Thomas Howell. Later on, the six other boys jokingly mocked this scene in the hotel's lobby fountain, playfully trying to drown each other. Hinton states the hotel had the fountain removed within weeks. Rob Lowe's film debut. He had also auditioned for the role of Randy Adderson, though it was not by his choice. Lowe certainly did not want to play a Soc in a movie about Greasers. He even considered lowering his performance level for Randy's audition so he would seem like a better fit for the Sodapop role.

In the scene where Ponyboy, Johnny, and Two-Bit are walking to Johnny's house, a hat flies into the scene. Two-Bit picks it up and says, "Look! I have a new hat! The hat belonged to one of the camera men, who lost the hat when a large fan accidentally blew it off his head. Francis Ford Coppola had said to the cast earlier that he did not want to stop rolling, no matter what, so the hat is still in the movie.

During the rumble scene, Tom Cruise was accidentally socked in the jaw and needed dental work the following day. The Tulsa dentist has a picture of him and the young actor together in his office. He had a small role as a messenger boy that was cut.



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